Hon.
Speaker Sir, the Home Minister is going
to appoint Joint Secretaries as Lieutenant Governors in the States.
Who will listen to all these people? Will there be a rule of law? The
Home Minister may prepare and pass the Bill, but what is the end result? The
end result is that the States will be headed by Joint Secretaries working
as Lieutenant Governors. They cannot manage the day-to-day administration. The
work of Central Government cannot be managed by the Joint Secretaries. Only experienced
Ministers can do this. Ministers have some say with the Joint Secretaries. Even
the new Ministers are not heard by these people. I know what is going on. They
cannot do anything themselves. They cannot manage120 things and deliver services to the
people. Even the senior Ministers would agree with it. This is what I am140 inferring from the Central Government
administration. The only thing that I want to know at the end of the
discussion160 is: what are you
going to do with this Bill? There has been consistent
problem of intrusion in the State of Jammu and Kashmir. Only two days back, seven
intruders have been killed by Indian Army. You are asking your counterpart
in Pakistan to come and take these bodies. Otherwise, the bodies will be there and
you cannot dispose of the bodies. Can you not hand over these bodies to Red
Cross Society? Two days have gone. The mighty Indian240 Government is begging and requesting the
Pakistan Government to come and take these bodies. All television news channels
are putting it in their headlines. This is what is happening. It is a
day-to-day administration. Security problems have not yet been280
solved. Our people in border areas are not safe. That is a more important
thing. Have you brought any solace to the people who are living at the
border? We are having porous borders. People are intruding every day.
Terrorists320 come and just
walk free. Is there any way to stop terrorists from coming and intruding into
our territory? The Home Minister is capable of answering and he may
answer. That is what we expect. As a responsible Opposition member,360 I can only warn my friends. A
friend in need is a friend indeed. I am your friend. There are umpteen
number of drawbacks politically and I can say them, but I do not want
to say all these things. At the same time, you have got the
majority and you are going to sail through this Bill successfully. At420 the end of the day, what are we going to
achieve? Why do you not wait for some time? The ‘true will’ can be
reflected only by the State Legislature and not by this Parliament.
Parliament is not for that purpose. When there is no Government, you can
just administer, but at the same time, clear-cut evidence is there, a480 judgement is there and it reflects that
the particular Constituent Assembly is capable of handling such
situations, but you have not given the opportunity to the Constituent
Assembly. You should have done it well in advance. Your Bill is just to
push your manifesto. In your manifesto, you have said that Article 370
will be abrogated. This is just to see that the wishes of your party,
and not the public, are fulfilled. If you could trust the public560 that it can vote for you to
abrogate Article 370, you should have done it by holding State elections.
You were not trusting them at that point of time. You are not trusting
the people. That is why, you600
want to get it passed in the Lok Sabha. That is why, you are bringing it in the
Lok Sabha. That is what the higher-ups would have told. You simply put your
people there, whether they are defeated or elected.640 That is not a problem. Your aim was to
get brute majority here and there, but you cannot do it in the South. Why do
you not get the things done in the South? You cannot do it in Kerala. You
cannot do it in Tamil Nadu. What is the reason for that? Mr. Home Minister,
you should have conducted700
the Assembly elections. Since you are very comfortable, probably you would
not have thought of it. Whatever situation is there, corrective measures
should be taken. We should see that border management, which is more
important, is properly done. Since the border is porous, I would request that
this porous condition should be arrested immediately. Our people should live in
peace. The Pakistan problem cannot be solved by this. Your aim should have
been that Pakistan issues are stopped forthwith. Had800 that been the cause for bringing this
Bill, definitely, I would have supported, but unfortunately, I could not
support because you have not done it right.
Hon.
Speaker, Sir, I rise to speak on the Jammu and Kashmir Reorganisation
Bill, 2019 and the Jammu and Kashmir Reservation (Second Amendment) Bill, 2019.
As far as the second840
Bill is concerned, there is nothing to oppose because in genuine matters
we are always very cooperative. After the abolition of Article 370, a war-like
situation has arisen, with people of Jammu and Kashmir on one side and
the people of rest of the country on the other side. This situation has
been created by the Government. It should not be allowed to
continue. Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of India. Kashmir is known as
the paradise on the earth. Why should we create a war-like situation there? I
do not want to conduct any post-mortem as to when Article 370 was
introduced, how it was introduced, etc. The fact is when Article 370 was960 introduced or incorporated, maybe at
that time it was an effective step. We cannot say whether it was
appropriate because980 we
were not there in that era. At that time, senior leaders of India had come
together and incorporated Article 370. After Independence, Maharaja Hari Singh,
the King of Jammu and Kashmir, decided to merge Jammu and Kashmir with India.
At that time, some concessions were given to them. We should not criticize the
leaders of that time by saying that the Article 370 was incorporated in a wrong
way or in a very bad way. We still believe in the principles of secularism,
communal harmony and unity of the country. We believe in the principle
of unity1080 in diversity.
So,
we should always project a situation of harmony. If the Government takes
any decision, it can certainly give effect to that decision by passing a
Bill or Resolution in the Parliament. But it would have been better1120 if the matter had been discussed
with the leaders of all political parties of the country before taking such a
crucial step which has shaken the country. Now the decision has been taken.
Jammu and Kashmir is no more a State. I would like to know from the hon.
Home Minister why the status of Jammu and Kashmir has been changed to Union
Territory. Why could it not have remained a State like other States of the
country? Will this1200
step not throw Jammu and Kashmir in a direction of more uncertainty? Will the
law-and-order situation remain intact? Already, more than 50,000 jawans of
armed forces have been deployed there. I do not know whether the Government has
made a very positive plan. They should explain and clarify it to the House
because there are apprehensions that the situation1260 may become more aggressive, and it can
spread throughout the country in a bad manner. The present situation
should not1280 throw this
State towards major uncertainty. Sir, yesterday I was hearing the speeches of
the leaders of the Opposition parties, the leaders on the Government
side and also the speech of the hon. Home Minister in Rajya Sabha. I think that
somewhere it is being reflected as lack of constitutional morality and
procedural lapses. It should be analysed and clarified to the House by
the hon. Home Minister. Many questions are being asked and many queries are
being raised not only by political parties but also by different
sections of the people. Why have the elected Members of Parliament
from Jammu and Kashmir been kept under house arrest? They should be
released immediately. I want to know whether the Government1400 is aware of the situation and keeping
proper information about this. We feel that this Bill is against the
constitutional morality; and a procedural lapse has been committed. If we
take part in the voting of this Bill, we will1440 become the partner of this Bill.
This we do not want to become. Hence, as the ultimate conclusion, we
have decided to walk out. Our only request is that there should be no
atrocities in Jammu and Kashmir and the people should be allowed to remain in
peace and harmony. They should be given the opportunity to live as Indian
citizens with their full command and confidence. We do not want to be part of
this Bill at all whether by support or by opposition. So, our Party is walking
out from the House.1536
